A Society with No Rulers

By John Litteral

Many people will have serious concerns about a society without government because living under government is all they’ve ever known, and they probably have never even seriously entertained the thought. It really requires thinking outside of the box, and it is challenging to visualize if you are new to the concept. But having no government does not mean that anything goes and there are no rules or standards to live by, it means that people take responsibility for themselves and govern themselves. So, the question arises about law and order. Eric Dubay says,

“What good are laws? Good people don’t need them and bad people don’t heed them. Why pay and empower unaffected parties to deliver standardized punishment for standardized offenses? Why not take back justice so that it’s Just Us that decides what’s just in each situation?

Anarchy is humanity’s natural state. Just as Government and Control are synonymous, so too are Anarchy and Freedom. Anarchy is the freedom to exist without being ruled by a violent, coercive minority that steals taxes and controls the money, media, military, police, laws, courts, and education.” 1[Eric Dubay]

People also assume that if we were living in a society of no rulers that it would be completely chaotic, lawless, and dangerous. Again, this just goes back to the only reality that we have ever known, and it is actually a failure of recognizing all of the chaos and tyranny that we have witnessed under government.

And it is a failure to recognize how millions of people have been killed by their own government, and manipulated into artificial division through propaganda and forced into wars. To fear total freedom because of the potential danger while at the same time failing to recognize the state of chaos, death and destruction while living under government is truly being blind and hypocritical. People feeling the false sense of security while living under tyranny while at the same time fearing true freedom, this is in fact Stockholm Syndrome, where a person who is kidnapped has some weird sort of emotional attachment to their captor. Even if the opportunity arises that they can escape from their situation, they choose to remain a hostage and prisoner. That is most of the population today, who because of all the propaganda, government indoctrination, and social conditioning it is extremely hard for people to accurately see their current state of oppression and how evil and corrupt government truly is, and how much better off society would be where people would be in total freedom. Keith Knight wisely points out,

“It’s incredible because they’re always terrified that that there might be a chaotic situation in the absence of government. Well, if we’re just taking America for example, there was a civil war that killed like half a million people when the country was 150th of the size it is now, so it’s not like government doesn’t cause chaos. Isn’t it a little chaotic and burdensome on the society when a few million men are enslaved to fight wars based on lies in Vietnam, in the European Theater twice within like 20 years? I mean, that’s pretty chaotic…

Imagine if we just would have gotten rid of the state in 1913, no Federal Reserve, no income tax, no World War One, no World War Two. And then maybe the state would have come back by the Vietnam and Cold War era, but you wouldn’t have had the Soviet Union or National Socialist Germany. So the idea that we can’t have no state because bad things might happen, excuse me, with the state worse things happen!”2

Joe Murray, in the same conversation with Keith Knight, expands on this and mentions how the idea of some who advocate smaller government and going back to a constitutional republic wont work at this point, saying,

“I don’t see how the world could be any more chaotic than it has been with government in place. And you know, in a stateless society people would learn how to cooperate with each other. They would have to, but they really don’t feel the incentive to do so now. And people talk about weaning us off of big government back to like a constitutional republic. It’s like first of all if you think that the government’s ever going to relinquish the powers that you’ve given them, then you’re just you’re insane, it is not going to happen. So I say, pull the system down and let it come crashing down. Let it be as chaotic as it has to be until people grow the f**k up and learn how to behave.” 2[Joe Murray]

Also, Joe Murray, when describing Libertarians and Constitutionalists, to whom he gives credit for having an understanding of freedom and are partially on track, they still can’t visualize a society without a ruling class, and they get hung up on the idea of an anarchist society, he says,

“You’re scared a true freedom, bottom line. That’s the truth of the matter. Also, the answer is no rulers. That’s it. They (Libertarians and Constitutionalists) are like, ‘what would we do about this and that?’ You want to know what the answer is to what would be done about those things in absence of government? Want to know what the answer is? Who f***ing cares, that’s your answer! Who f***ing cares! Grow the f*** up and figure it out. You only have the right to protect yourself, your family, your property and other innocents and that’s it. As far as how society would function without a ruling class, who gives a s**t. Grow the f**k up, take responsibility for your own lives, and then get together with others in your community and figure it out. That’s it. There isn’t a master plan to cover every one of your f***ing fears and concerns. True freedom is dangerous! And I choose dangerous freedom over complacent tranquil f***ing servitude any day. Especially what’s going on today, any day! You know, because as the saying goes, ‘the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.’” 3[Joe Murray]

But opponents to the concept of a society without a ruling class argue that there needs to be government because people simply are unable to rule themselves and they cannot be trusted, and it would degrade society into a barbarian or Mad Max type of existence. But this argument is taken on by Larken Rose, saying,

“The debate between statism and anarchism (or voluntaryism) is often incorrectly assumed to be a question of whether people are inherently good and trustworthy and therefore need no controllers, or are inherently bad and untrustworthy and therefore need ‘government’ to control them. In truth, whether humans are all good, all bad, or something in between, the belief in ‘authority’ is still an irrational superstition. But the most popular excuse for ‘government’—that people are bad and need to be controlled—inadvertently exposes the lunacy inherent in all statism. If human beings are so careless, stupid and malicious that they cannot be trusted to do the right thing on their own, how would the situation be improved by taking a subset of those very same careless, stupid and malicious human beings and giving them societal permission to forcibly control all the others? Why would anyone think that rearranging and reorganizing a group of dangerous beasts would make them civilized? The answer hints at the mythological nature of the belief in ‘authority.’ It is not merely a different arrangement of human beings that authoritarians seek, but the involvement of some superhuman entity, with rights that human beings do not have, and with virtues that human beings do not have, which can be used to keep all the untrustworthy humans in line. To say that human beings are so flawed that they need to be controlled—a common refrain among statists—implies that something other than human beings needs to do the controlling. But no matter how hard you study ‘government,’ you will find that it is always run entirely by people. Saying that ‘government’ is necessary because people are untrustworthy is as irrational as saying that if someone is being attacked by a swarm of bees, the solution is to create an authoritarian hierarchy among the bees, assigning some of the bees the duty of preventing the other bees from doing harm. However dangerous the bees may be, such a ‘solution’ is ridiculous. What the believers really want out of ‘government’ is a huge, unstoppable power that will be used for good. But there is no magic trick, political or otherwise, capable of guaranteeing that justice will occur, that the ‘good guys’ will win or that the innocent will be protected and cared for. The giant, superhuman, magical savior that statists insist is needed to save humanity from itself does not exist. On this planet, at least, human beings are the top—there is nothing above them to control them and make them behave properly, and hallucinating such a superhuman entity does not make it real, nor does it help the situation.” 4[Larken Rose, Pg. 37-38]


1 Eric Dubay, The Atlantean Conspiracy (Final Edition) lulu.com (November 23, 2009), ISBN-10 : 1304634396, ISBN-13 : 978-1304634399

2 Joe Murray, Episode 5, First Principles, Sep. 22, 2020, https://freedomforall.online/2020/09/22/first-principles/

3 Joe Murray, Episode 11, An Honest Look At Human Consciousness And Where It Needs To Be Pt.2, NOVEMBER 9, 2020, https://freedomforall.online/2020/11/09/an-honest-look-at-human-consciousness-and-where-it-needs-to-be-pt-2/

4 Larken Rose, Most Dangerous Superstition Paperback – January 1, 2011, Larkin Rose; 2nd edition, ISBN-10 : 1624071694, ISBN-13 : 978-1624071690


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